What if we all took up telling the truth
as a hobby?

What if, whether awkward and red faced
or free, unabashed,
we spoke in unadorned words,
straight from the heart?

What if truth-telling
became a skill to refine
as we got deeper,
more honest with self?

What if we dared be transparent
and frank
about all that we think, believe, and wonder
and – crucially –
said what we want

On Monday afternoons, at bedtime,
in meetings, on dates,
with the post office lady,
at late summer picnics,
and on the commute

What if we all made truth a pastime?
More than a lofty ideal
or noble pursuit
what if truth became habit,
so standard and common
it was never in doubt?

Would this chasten the boredom,
the middle age spread?
Wouldn’t it heighten the crisis but also its end?

If,
instead of football, or hockey, croquet or golf,
in lieu of baking and YouTube and scrolling the phone,
we practiced and laughed,
as we built up the muscle,
increasing endurance
until truth was routine?

What if truth and its telling
is the answer, to ending
the quest for fulfillment,
to “finding one’s passion”
and living our best.

Mary Luck

As I explained in my last update, in 2020 we experienced a number of technical roadblocks to completing the editing of our last event, the “Understanding Sin & It’s Causes” Assistance Group. We still have a long way to go to finish the project. So, because our life was effectively being chewed up on this one big task and the complications to completing it, this year we decided to be firmer about having more of a balanced and enjoyable life. We also want to be able to continue to share new material to hopefully encourage people who are attempting to put the principles of Divine Truth into action. This means that we will be splitting our time and focus to include not only editing and technical tasks but some new projects (see below) and much more time for our personal growth.

Purchase of new hardware

In December I mentioned that our old iMac computers, which we use for video and audio editing, were beginning to have problems. After Jesus replaced the hard drives in both machines we found that we were still encountering failures and unreliability. (Including that after completing repairs on my Mac one afternoon – which involved removing and then firmly reattaching and re-gluing the screen – Jesus returned the next morning to find the screen which had been left tilting backwards in the closed, empty studio had somehow defied the laws of gravity and lay smashed forward on my desk). Repairs and maintenance on these computers was now dominating most of Jesus’ time, meaning that not only were we not editing but we also weren’t working on other important projects. So, we decided it was time to simply purchase new computers with the intent of completing this enormous editing project as quickly and easily as possible (no matter what we do, it still won’t be quick or easy but delaying the purchase was only making the process slower and more difficult).

Our long term goal is to move away from Apple products altogether and so we had been hoping to be able to use our existing iMacs to finish the “Understanding Sin & Its Causes” edit and then make the shift to new computers and new editing software. We changed this plan when we decided the headaches and loss of work we were encountering trying to make do on the old machines weren’t worth it.

Unfortunately we are still having connectivity issues between our servers (where the raw data is stored) and the Mac computers. So, Jesus spent a lot of time over the past few months trying to repair the old iMacs, then setting up the new iMacs with the necessary software and attempting to solve the networking issue between the iMacs and servers.

The situation brought editing tasks to a complete halt once again in January and February. However this gave us some time to work on another project which we have wanted to get started for a while.

Livestreaming

Over the past month we have been working on establishing our capacity to host regular livestream events in which we can interact with listeners in real time.

This is a multi-step process which has included:

1. Finding a suitable streaming platform
2. Setting up a new YouTube account specifically to stream and store video of live events
3. Configuration of a new technical set up which allows us to:
   – stream good quality video (that is, video is captured by our stuido cameras and sent in place of usual webcam video)
   – stream good quality audio (use of personal microphones rather than relying on the audio captured by a PC)
   – capture and record a local copy of video and audio recordings during the events which can later be edited and used on our other main and clip channels
4. Finding a physical location with low latency internet connection, high upload speeds and sufficient bandwidth to allow for seamless transmission and interactions during regular livestreams

In January we took a trip to the Sunshine Coast for Jesus to complete a podcast interview via livestream. This gave us the impetus to start to work through the four steps I listed above. Designing and setting up a new recording system for both video and audio and gaining adequate internet connection speeds took about a week. And while we had various problems to solve in this process, the interview went ahead and we now have a skeleton plan and set up to start to host our own livestream events.

This issue of an adequate internet connection from the Divine Truth studio remains an issue.

Our current home and studio set up relies on a satellite internet connection. Satellite transmissions always introduce problematic delays (due to higher latency times). This is because any feed must be transmitted from the creation point, to the satellite in space, and then back to the viewer in another location on Earth.

Those of you who made international phone calls in years gone by may remember the lag between you speaking and your speech being heard by the other person. This is the kind of delay experienced on our satellite internet connection when attempting to make video calls and which would be present if we were to use our current internet service for livestreams from home. Delays are off putting and definitely disruptive to spontaneous and free flowing dialogue.

Using mobile phone networks to access the internet provides much quicker speeds. However, as we live in a rural area with poor mobile phone coverage, we have never been able to utilize this option. However, at the moment, we are investigating improving our mobile phone coverage by installing antenna on our or a neighbouring property. If we are able to achieve this we could livestream from our home studio – which would be perfect.

In the meantime, as we work on the home internet issue, we have decided to introduce some travel so that we can start livestreaming using better internet connections in other locations.

Once there is a date for the first livestream, an announcement will be made via YouTube to subscribers on our Divine Truth Main YouTube channel.

The first event will likely be a casual update on Divine Truth with Jesus. You will be able to participate in real time by typing questions to him.

In future we would like to have themed discussions and feedback sessions in which listeners can participate and ask questions.

The new YouTube channel for livestreaming is: Divine Truth Live

Technical Upgrades and Installations

Despite no longer editing, Jesus has achieved a great deal these past two months. He researched and experimented with the equipment required for the new livestreaming project and worked on organising and packing cases that enabled us to transport the equipment safely. As I mentioned he set up the new iMac computers, installing necessary software etc.

He also built and is now able to run Virtual Machines on our smaller servers which weren’t being used. This enables us to use the servers for storage of recorded data while we are traveling (e.g. video and audio captured during livestream events). They can also be used as personal computers in place of the laptops we usually travel with.

Two of the servers on which he had installed virtual machines were given away. One to Eloisa and the other to Cornelius, so that they now have the ability to start creating video and audio content to share on their personal channels. (I’m excited to see how their creations go, I have an inside scoop on some of the projects in the works and I think that they will be interesting and inspiring to others).

Clearing the Studio

At the moment, as with a lot of things in our life, we have the opportunity to overhaul, review and redesign. This goes for the equipment, systems and practices that we have been using for years in relation to data storage, computer software, AV equipment, and recording procedures.

At the moment the floor of our main studio room looks like this:

The renovation to create a server room and Jesus’ storinator server building projects in 2020 meant that everything in the studio has been moved around and mixed up. Some of the equipment we were using has been repurposed and some is now redundant.

As we have decided to no longer switch video live during events equipment from that old set up that can now be gifted or sold. Along with that, in the studio, a lot of newly configured gear must be rehoused and various cables, screws and parts labelled and organised. In January, under Jesus’ direction, I spend time on this project but as you can see there is a lot more to do and, as we make new decisions and set up the livestreaming project, more things are added to the pile in this room.

I’ll continue to work on this project over the coming months but I do rely on Jesus precision knowledge of each piece of cable, every part, all of the equipment and the systems they fall into to guide my work. The benefit of all of the upheaval in our operations since 2019 is that I am learning a lot more about the nuts and bolts of what we use and how to use it all.

Obviously for us to start to record any content from home (livestream or otherwise) this floor needs to be cleared and our recording set up reinstated.

Before then we have so many screws to sort (see below)…

God’s Way Ltd

We continue to meet regularly with God’s Way members and various projects including terrace seeding and Caretakers’ Residence renovation construction are ongoing. If Jesus and I can find a way to have livestream events from home, we are excited that God’s Way Ltd may also be able to host seminars and Q&As via livestream as well.

Eco Tent Renovation

As I mentioned in December, we are building small cabins (designed by Jesus) to replace our worn out eco tents. We are paying Cornelius and Jadda to work on the job.

Things are taking shape!

Tristan Farewell

Tristan has set off to start his teaching degree and we held a lunch in February to wish him well on this next adventure.

It was great to hang out and play some music together.

Other stuff

Jesus made time to clean out and restore one of our worm farms.

He also visited the terrace project which is looking great after some (limited) rain in January.

And he checked in on the plumbing project for the God’s Way Ltd Caretakers’ Residence renovation which he is directing (for more information about God’s Way projects check the God’s Way Ltd blog).

As for me, when not helping out in the studio, I have been spending a lot of time on my own working on some emotions which I will update about soon.

Thank you

Thank you for your donations in January and February.

I’ve been struck lately by the modern world and how there are so many intrusions and distractions competing for people’s attention. Media, social media and mobile phones seem to dominate most people’s attention a lot of the time. Divine Truth is so different from the things being ‘served up’ via these other sources. You could say that Divine Truth is ‘anti-addiction’, while those other things, for the main part, feed on and encourage people’s addictions.

Divine Truth is for truth, which most people have become completely alienated from in themselves, in their relationships, and in the world around them. Divine Truth is all about a very definite, immovable Love that most people don’t recognize as love at all. And to top that off, it is led by a couple of seemingly ordinary people (or odd, depending on who you consult), who claim to be Jesus and Mary Magdalene (identities shrouded in preconceptions, misconceptions, and myth) and who often stir up emotion and anger in others.

So, at times, I am surprised that anyone listens to Divine Truth at all, let alone donates money to have it continue to be shared on Earth. Of course, I also know that truth is ultimately appealing to every human heart and that love is attractive. But still, I thank those of you who choose to give in any way to have us continue what we do. It is a privilege and we try to spend and use what we receive wisely and well.

With love,

Jesus & Mary

I believe that speaking plainly about the real matters at hand, discussing principles, and rooting out causes of disharmony and unhappiness are all worthwhile and reasonable pursuits. I often feel naive because I tend to assume that other people would share this opinion. It seems logical to me.

To my mind, when problems arise, if we can’t discuss:

1. ethical principles pertaining to the events or actions in question, and,
2. the underlying motivations and intentions that drive personal actions, systems, and events

then what on earth are we even talking about and how can a problem ever be resolved? This doesn’t have to be a war and peace length discussion either. In my experience, interactions become far more streamlined when people are honest and focused on the points I mention above.

I have always felt this way and I know that at times in my professional life I was a headache for my managers because I always wanted to address the elephants in the room and I could never play institutional politics.

But I onbserve that most people choose an alternative to “solving problems” which involves one or more of the following:

• Silence, avoidance, denial that an issue exists
• Game playing, and social and political politics
  For example “I’ll say something to get what I want from you. You give me what I  want. I praise you for doing it and we’ll both tell ourselves problem solved!” In other words – manipulation for personal gain
• Using faces of politeness and pseudo concern to mask self interest and selfishness
  In other words, the issue is addressed with polite words or in calm tones but under the surface a mass of other angry or entitled feelings drive the exchange

None of these methods solve the problem. And even though, on some level, I understand what motivates people to act in these ways, some innocent child in me is still shocked and sad when attempting the alternative, a discussion of motivations and principles, apparently causes so much offense. So many people react as if it is UNREASONABLE to want resolution based on truth and real change.

Which brings me to something I have been pondering about lately.

Prejudice.

Prejudice. I mean, it’s a big topic and I am concerned that I won’t be able to do it justice and express everything I feel about it in one go (I definitely won’t). But here are some things.

The dictionary defines prejudice as:

noun: prejudice; plural noun: prejudices

1.
preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience

Prejudice exists so widely on Earth. I think about people who are instantly judged based on the colour of their skin, an illness, their beliefs, the way they dress or speak.

It is heartbreaking.

I’ve always felt this and I have always wanted to change it.

In my work with people with disabilities, people with a mental illness, with refugees, and in general health settings, the desire and autonomy of the individual were my focus and to speak up against systems and decisions based on prejudice were always important to me. (Although I didn’t really think about this at the time, it is only on reflection that I see the values I held. And indeed, on reflection, I see how I could have done better and how humility to some emotions at the time would have made me way, way better at loving and removed prejudices of my own).

And in reference to my previous points about motivations and principles, I have always known that anyone’s propensity towards prejudice of a certain (or any) type comes from unresolved and/or unloving desires within that person. Uninformed bias or preconception so often has roots in locked up pain from a person’s past or in investments in the emotional “rewards” granted to that person by significant others when they retain their prejudice.

I believe that I have always had compassion on some level for groups and individuals who encounter hate and prejudice as a part of their day to day lives.

But something I have avoided giving sincere consideration to is how these desires of mine apply to Jesus and I. How does prejudice relate to us and indeed towards the people who love us?

Julie, a friend, recently sent me a text:

(excerpt)
I've been going through people's judgement of me (behind my back) that's there from some of the people I know in the community who I have contact with as being a 'Jesus Person'. I had no idea it was happening and how much its around. Sharing time with you and my friends and knowing how much you both have given to all of us. I'm angry that people are judgemental of you both without knowing you. This comment is such a put down. It's like I've been 'blind sided', thinking I'm just Jules without the added 'label'.

Jesus has been doing some interviews lately and when he spoke up about some of the ways he was treated, it was obvious, due to his identity claims, that the people involved didn’t believe he deserved the respect afforded to others.

After the interview was edited it was sent to him for a response before publication. Jesus raised that music had been used to add dramatic effect and that religious statues had been placed around his image. As he said (and I paraphrase here), his claims are sensational enough without having to add such features that make fun of him and/or heighten emotion in viewers. He also said that there had been a lack of regard for our time (we were given the impression that further interviews would take place and set aside time for that) and that one interviewer had placed words in Jesus’ mouth (notably stating that Jesus supports Mormonism). While these issues were not major in and of themselves, the motivations that drove them are important and would continue to play out and worsen in future interviews if not addressed. He received a “polite” reply which dismissed his latter concerns as not having occurred and the former issues about making fun were promised to be removed.

When Jesus responded stating that the important issue was not the removal of the music and images but to address the motivations that drove their placement in the first place, he was branded a bully. Two out of three of the interviewers commenced a campaign of ridicule and derision against him online and now have plans to film a specific attack video about him for their channel.

Again, my child-like heart was shocked. Why don’t people want to talk plainly about their true motives? Why don’t principles matter to others? Why are “polite” words which avoid the real issues taken to be a kind response?

Of course the adult, largely cynical, Mary knows the reasons why and my desire to remain innocent to these matters is only a futile attempt to shield me from my fear and grief about the real motives that always existed in these people had I been willing to feel and notice them. (Jesus warned me about their intentions before the first interview took place).

I wrote to the interviewers:

Hi Derek, Dave and Dr Price,

I’m writing as you directly as you invited me to be involved in an interview with you and Jesus.

I was considering your request but first took the opportunity to see how you treated Jesus in the prior interview and then how you, Dave and Derek, ‘promoted’ the video and how you have been responding to commenters on both Reddit and YouTube.

Since I now have plain evidence for the derision you have for us (that was obviously always underlying what you called a ‘respectful interaction’ during the interview), of course I don’t want to be involved with you guys. I find it strange that you would think that I would.

In my opinion there is always room for love and respect for every person, no matter what your personal beliefs and opinions are. Derek and Dave, I watched as you both told Jesus how kind and loving you are as people. But in reality you are clearly more interested in creating a channel and revenue than you are in those most core human values.

I have nothing to hide and I’m not a brain-washed, manipulated bimbo as many people would like to believe. But you guys already don’t seem to be interested in displaying me or Jesus as we are, so talking with you would do nothing but play into your unkind agenda.

Because I believe so strongly in those values of respect and care for all humans, I am always open to the possibility of those values existing in the people who want to interview us. However time and again I find, as in this case with you both, that derision, ridicule and calling us ‘insane’ is something people find acceptable towards us. To me, if I were you, I would question why you actually think that we somehow deserve what you say that others don’t. And how that fits with your view that you are kind people.

Cheers,
Mary

In their responses to me both Dave and Derek stated that I was wrong and that they are actually kind men. But to watch their recent online comments and responses shows me that they lack the integrity and common regard for humans they profess.

My values of love and respect apply to all people, no matter the condition, intention or actions of the people I am dealing with. I hold these towards Derek and David still. I can’t say the same of them towards us.

In this instance I observed Jesus, with his kind heart and passion for truthfulness, ethics and principles, sincerely try to resolve an issue of prejudice towards himself. The more he tried to do this, in clear and respectful terms, the more he was labelled as anal, unreasonable, OCD, a bully and badly in need of psychological help (none of this was stated in an attempt to sincerely help him but rather to put him down).

I think of other people who experience far worse prejudice daily. Too many people are refused service and basic human necessities on the basis of a single feature about themselves.

Gender, race, age, sexuality, wealth, religion, belief, ability, disability and so many other factors – these have all be weaponized. I think about how societies as a whole don’t want their prejudices exposed and how they often attack those who they harm for speaking up about it. We fight coming to terms with our judgements and hate because we fight the knowledge of our own unjust, unloving, selfish and entitled motivations that drive them.

In my reply to Jules I wrote:

I've been thinking about prejudice more lately. Like you, I tend to skip over it, try to placate it (by trying to show I am 'normal') or I just withdraw from interactions with most people not associated with Divine Truth so I don't have to feel sad or afraid. I want to write about it because, as you say, it isn't just Jesus and I who experience this, it is almost everyone who chooses to be open about listening to us. There is grief to be felt but also the opportunity to challenge the unloving judgements in others. I think about people who are judged for the colour of their skin or for a disfigurement or disability, how difficult it must be for them.  If I don't challenge prejudice wherever I find it, even when it is against me, then how can I say I love?

I don’t spend enough time dwelling on others’ judgements about us because I still resist the grief that the full recognition of our rejection would expose. And I do things to help me avoid this grief. At times, in some sneaky corner of my soul, or sometimes right out in the open, I rationalize and make excuses for people’s unkind treatment of us.

For example, I often feel that it would be weird for people to have someone show up and say that he is Jesus – that it scares them or angers them based on issues in their past, or on what other people have done in the name of ‘spirituality’ and ‘God’. Sometimes I brace because I know that others will find our focus on principles and motivations “too much”. I wonder, are we just “too much” for people to handle or like?

I feel that as Mary Magdalene others must find me disappointing, I often feel disappointed in myself. (I don’t feel that way about Jesus. That man has the heart of a giant loving lion, he walks his talk and he knows God). But I catch myself making excuses for people’s difficulties with us. It hurts that our intentions are continually judged incorrectly but to speak up against it – to address the attack – often leads to more attack. So I shy away. To do otherwise would be to feel more injustice, and pain.*

But by denying the truth and my emotional experience of what is happening, I realise now that I am acting in direct contradiction to some of my core values. I wouldn’t stand for this towards others but I allow it when it is towards Jesus and myself.

What I haven’t wanted to recognise is that by making excuses for people who attack me I become complicit in the prejudice against us. When I don’t grieve, I play games with myself instead, trying to rationalise another person’s hate or judgement. In doing this, I don’t confront their lack of love and I tacitly support that person in something that harms them** as well as me and others.

When I comply with prejudice in any form, even if only towards myself, I contribute to prejudice in all its other forms wherever it exists. What I mean is, whenever my heart says it is OK to make even one exception, I am in fact saying to other hearts that their ‘one exception’, whatever that is, is OK too.

Footnotes:

* As an aside, most people (not just me) rationalise judgement and attack of Jesus.
The rationale is often “Well, if you are going to say you are Jesus then you have to expect you’ll be {insert horrible treatment here}” . To some degree I could understand if the statement was “If you are going to be a greedy, selfish, arrogant mongrel then you can’t expect to be treated well”. That at least relates to a person’s character and conduct. But Jesus is most often treated worse than others based on his claim alone, not on his character. Of course, that fact that he speaks up about matters of love and truth just adds to the desire most people have to attack him after they interact with him for a while.

** People who hold and express feelings of judgment and hatred harm three sets of people:
1. those people they direct their judgement and hatred towards
2. those people that they influence and interact with
3. they themselves

Recently I had the privilege to speak with an old friend of ours in the spirit world.

Jesus and I were discussing what we remembered of Paul and his life on earth and Jesus suggested I speak to Paul directly. Since, at the time, we had no capacity to record the mediumship session, I channeled directly on paper.

While I am usually shy to share messages that refer to our first century life or identities, I thought others may benefit from Paul’s message. I especially enjoyed how he expressed the impact receiving God’s Love has upon our gender injuries and his description of how first century healings took place.

My questions to Paul are in italics below and his responses in regular text.

Questions for Paul – 13th August, 2018

What was it like when Jesus appeared to you? (reference to Paul’s conversion)

I heard his voice in my head, I had a ‘knowing’ of who he was without him saying who he was, I simply knew. I didn’t see his physical form but it was as if I had looked directly into the sun – if the sun was much closer and filled my entire field of vision.

I felt his great love for me and, in that moment, I knew that God Loved in the same way.

I understood suddenly that all of my endeavours to gain status and respect in my community were in vain. I was walking a path of vanity and arrogance, eager for approval from an absent father. When Jesus appeared to me I immediately understood that this endeavour was shallow and would never have me receive the kind of love I knew in that moment.

After that moment, while I later continued on that same road to Damascus, I was following a new path, filled with a joy and faith that never left me for all of my remaining days on earth.

My eyes were merely burned and soon healed. I was grateful for my temporary blindness, it was a temporary symbol of my permanently changed focus from the external, physical world of man, to the internal and sacred journey of the soul.

I was fortunate to have had such a profound and life altering experience. A blessing surely.

It was a blessing which I endeavoured to pass forward to others. I saw my experience on the road, which opened my heart to God, as a gift that I wanted others to also receive. I wanted to offer my life as a demonstration of that same Love that I received and provide education as to how to receive it.

What errors would you correct?

Of course there is a great amount of history missing from the accounts of the Bible due to the almost global removal of references to women, women’s teaching and healing, and generally the difference in relationships that existed between men and women amongst early Christians.

While you yet still resist these memories, the relationship between you and Jesus did have an impact upon how The Way was understood by those around you. While you could not eradicate all of the cultural and societal injuries surrounding gender, it was widely accepted by most of us that women could and were equally capable when it came to healing, teaching and mediumship (three key ways that The Way was taught and demonstrated to others).

Much of our healing involved; the removal of spirit attachments, the channeling of loving energy from guides and God, the establishment of faith in the person who was ill through the gifting of love without prejudice (most who were ill were excluded and judged by society), and even through receiving guidance from spirits about the workings of the human body and the physical disease process. Luke was indeed an excellent physician because he had genuine desires and abilities in each of these areas.

Without understanding what we were doing, we did have some of what would be termed, “medical knowledge”. Though observing the earth today, it was rudimentary in the physical sense. However, so called modern medicine on earth could now advance in an extremely rapid way if it were to become open to the knowledge of spirits, the workings of the soul, and the power of God’s Love to heal all things.

But I digress,

Of course, I did not ever say those things attributed to me about the role of women and their dis allowance from teaching. While I admit that my relationship with the female gender was not fully healed at the time of my passing (and so I know that I still sinned greatly in my viewpoint and treatment of women while on earth) one cannot have received the Love of God and experienced the blessing of a long relationship with God and also maintain that women are of lesser value than men. When one has been Loved, one understands that love does not have prejudice, nor favour one gender or social class over another. Jesus was our greatest living example of this but God’s Love, when received, imparts this Truth to us all. Many of my other recorded statements reflect this knowledge.

I know that you also have questions about my associations on the earth.

It is true that I travelled a lot. For most of my life on earth in fact. And many younger than myself travelled with me at various times. While I did not know my children well, for they disavowed me after my famous “conversion”, I became like a father and grandfather to many of those younger men who travelled with me over the years.

It was most often men who travelled – it being safer and more accepted. Sometimes wives accompanied us but as I said, I was not perfected in my love for the gender and so I was not as inclusive as I may have been. The rejection from my first wife, whom I had married for love, was a wound that took time to heal.*

In reality, my heart was taken up with the zeal of sharing the news of Jesus and God with whomever would listen. I ‘left behind’ my grief about my wife, filled with a sense of purpose that I believed that God had given me. So you see that, even though I was filled with faith and knowledge of the Love of God, I was in many ways a foolish young man with many lessons still to learn.

I believe that Jesus appeared to me, that God allowed such an act, because my soul was ripe for change but also that I was already a man of action, who felt driven by principle. (It was only that my principles were flawed before I met him). So they both knew that I would never cease sharing of my experience and would remain driven that others should know the Love of God. For this, there were many blessings I received at my passing but there were still lessons to learn and opportunities that God had placed in my way on earth that I had overlooked.

By the time of my death I had found Sinai, a Christian woman of a similar age to myself, who I lived with and loved as though my wife. We were happy then but this was nothing of the happiness we now share. Having passed and commencing the healing of our injuries with men and women, we discovered ourselves to be soulmates and the bliss of this relationship is unlike anything apart from the Love of God.

We are not yet unified but grow with each other constantly.

But back to my associates,

Yes, Timothy was often with me. A smart and brave companion. Always noting things down, he understood the importance of what was being taught. Having known Jesus, he was as passionate as I that others should hear of his (Jesus’) work and teaching.

Luke was among us too on many occasions. Serious, studious and full of faith. He spoke of you and we listened well. I admit, to me, you were an almost mystical figure. We never met on earth but I regarded you as one who must be truly sacred to have known the love of Jesus and to carry on in his name.

Of course, now I know that you were a regular woman who simply shared our faith and passion. But such were the times and all of us pressed Luke for word of you whenever we met.

There were many others with me of course. Some came and went, and others were with me more constantly. Many friends and colleagues who did their part to support me, or teach with me, or learn from me. It truly was a great existence. To dedicate one’s life as a testament to God – wonderful!

Regarding my death,

Yes, this was in Rome where I lived for the final 5 years of my life after travelling became too much. Of course I didn’t count the years but I died in what I now know to be 70AD. I was quite old by standards of the day.

Yes, at certain times I was imprisoned but I had a relatively good relationship with Roman governance. Then, as now, religion was mainly politics and since I did not play political games I was not viewed with much fear.

I wrote some letters, yes. Remnants of which remain intact in your Bible. Others like Luke and Timothy wrote for me as well and some of their work appears in my name also.

I am not unhappy in general with the Bible rendition of my life. It holds some Truth and I believe it holds the power to open the willing heart to God and this was always my intention and desire.

The problem occurs when when men and women cling to words instead of trusting the wisdom of their heartfelt experience of God. It is only ever fear that causes a person to return to words, seeking a sense of security in what can be measured, desiring dictates in order to quell a rising tide of fear.

As you know, God’s Way is to continue on, allowing fear and uncertainty (which is also fear) to overwhelm us, so that we may overcome it forever more.

Many times in my life on earth I placed my trust in God. As I allowed my fear to rise up, I kept rudder and mast aligned to God, continuing on while the dread and uncertainty were experienced and passed from me; like a tempest weathered on the steady route Home.

Those who cling only to words allow themselves to take their hand from the rudder directing them toward God, they lose direction. At best, they end up in the doldrums where nothing happens; at worst they steer off course and end up in terrible torment, taking years, even centuries to recover.

And lastly, I will speak to you of who you are.

Your brain cannot yet conceptualise how all this may have occurred, how we may have lived on earth in a time long passed and again you sit on earth speaking with me now. But your heart does, I feel it as we speak.

There is much expansion of your emotional capacities required for you to harmoniously live with this truth. Instead of berating yourself for the situation, focus on the expansion of your emotional and spiritual capacities. Experiment as you are now, with your passions for teaching, healing and mediumship – the three methods we always used to share The Way.

You are wise, you are beautiful. Only allow it. I know you now as I never knew you when I lived on earth and your life may still be as a testament to God.

I affirm who you are. I say you are the Magdalene.

Your brother, your friend,

Paul

I had previously announced that we would be holding a public seminar in October.

Sadly, and despite quite an effort on Lena, Jesus and my parts, we weren’t able to find a suitable venue that would house all of our recording set up and potential guests on the Sunshine Coast in October this year.

So our scheduled seminar has had to be postponed. I know how excited some of you were for a new seminar. Thank you for that. We love sharing and seeing you and we know it has been quite a long time since we held shorter event.

We’ll keep looking for venues but at this stage it looks like we won’t hold a seminar of this kind until sometime in 2019 or 2020. Jesus and I, and the production team, are now full steam ahead preparing for the Assistance Groups and editing new studio recordings.

I know that the Assistance Groups are a larger time commitment but if you would like to attend and have the time available, there are still a few places remaining in Understanding Sin & Its Causes. You can reserve a ticket here: Understanding Sin & Its Causes Group 1

Jesus yo yo-ing in his breaks at the group

God’s Way has a strong desire and some plans in the works to build a new venue in our local area here in Queensland. This venue could host Divine Truth events and other free God’s Way information and education sessions. We are excited for this prospect. But since God’s Way is another organization reliant on volunteers and donations, this may take sometime. If you would like to stay updated about God’s Way plans and projects then you can subscribe to that blog here: https://blog.godsway.net/blog/

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Hi J,

Thank you for your feedback.

Over the years, there has been a dynamic occurring between Jesus and I during filming in which I do become very bossy and I either compete with Jesus or try to take control of the conversation.

At those times, for me, one of the following things are happening (usually more than one at once):
– I’m quite afraid about how something we’re discussing will be received by the public, and/or
– I’m attempting to maintain some sense of facade because I feel that something about me has been exposed that I am ashamed about, and/or
– I’m being attacked by spirits about other specific fears I’m yet to release

Rather than being soft to those fears, I try to exert control over what is being said or fall into a ‘defensive’/competitive mode with Jesus. In this fear based motivation, I often want Jesus to cover the topic in the way that I think it should be discussed.

Once I become bossy, Jesus, out of his love for truth, then has to become insistent with me so that he can get across the important message. Often, afterwards I realise just how irrational I have become in my fear of exposure and desire for control. Of course, as your email highlights, my behaviour at these times is actually harmful to how God’s Truth is received.

My only correction to what you have sensed is that it isn’t that Jesus ‘doesn’t want to appear downtrodden’. Jesus has a quality, that very few people really understand, that causes him to be very un-selfconscious while teaching. Instead, he is completely focused on God’s Truth. So at the times you mention, while he is quite insistent with me, and does interject, this is because he feels that the Truth conveyed in the recording is more important than anything else.

Also, he allows this dynamic to continue at times because, as I am expressing fear-based attitudes which many people share, he feels that his correction of me often has some benefit to the audience.

Jesus and I have discussed this dynamic between us many times in private and even stopped mid-recording on occasions for me to deal with what is happening for me.

Various people in the past have sensed the dynamic but through their injuries misinterpret what is going on. I’ve found that a lot of women don’t see me as ‘bossy’ at all, they think Jesus is the one who is doing the ‘bossing’ and rudely ‘cutting me off’. A lot of men have various feelings based on how they would view what is going on in the same situation. Some feel that Jesus should pander to me, or that he is trying to defend himself. None of these things are true but it is easy to see how those misinterpretations happen given the common injuries on earth today in both genders.

At this stage both Jesus and I are still works in progress. I do apologise that at times the recordings are difficult to listen to while I am progressing. That is something I take very seriously. I am working on my humility and specifically my addiction to avoid particular fears and shame relating to my first century experience.

I know that me being in a humble state makes a huge difference to the quality of my interviewing, my comments during discussions, and makes it a pleasure for both Jesus and I to complete the recordings. I think that this year we’ve had some great examples of that but also some not-so-great days where I have definitely missed the mark.

I’ll take a look at the video in question. I know that we hadn’t done much prep for that interview, and that I was a bit stressed about the topic we were discussing. We also later realised that we hadn’t covered all of the points made by Cardinal Pell during this segment of the interview so we had already considered re recording the discussion. However Jesus did feel that some good comments were made so we let it go public. It is unlikely that we will reconsider that now, as, in a way, it is a tangible example of us both as ‘works in progress’. We don’t edit our material to present a perfect facade. In fact, the only editing that happens in our videos is to remove coughs, breaks etc.

To live in harmony with God’s Laws we must be transparent and become comfortable with being transparent in, and about, our interactions. Obviously, I am not yet as humble as I could be but I do feel it is a demonstration of both my and Jesus’ humility that we leave recordings intact when we are creating our videos.

I’m not sure what you were referring to when you mentioned ‘zealotry’ but perhaps it is also worth mentioning that both Jesus and I do have some strong feelings about how God is currently mis-represented on Earth. We are passionate about people understanding that God exists and is Loving and so we do speak very frankly about religion and atheism. (if you have read the Bible this shouldn’t surprise you, if you consider how Jesus spoke with and about Pharisees). This does not mean that we judge those with religious or atheistic beliefs. We are though very direct when elements of those belief systems harm others. To be honest, severe harm is caused to people by teachers of false beliefs. At times people misunderstand our frankness, directness and enthusiasm for the subject as judgement or a lack of compassion for others. Both Jesus and I see the need to confront widely held misconceptions about God and atheism and in doing this we will need to be very upfront about the topics. Jesus’ firmness during discussion like these does at times trigger some of the fears I mentioned above and can kick the dynamic you mentioned.

Again, I appreciate the feedback and I’m glad for the opportunity to clarify the dynamic between Jesus and I. I would like to place this exchange on my blog so that others can benefit from the exchange.

It may help you to re watch the videos you mention and to feel what exactly in our exchanges you found difficult. You could revisit the material in an effort to learn more about your emotions regarding interactions between men and women. But in particular to feel about feel strong condemnation of false belief systems.

There is a common belief on the Earth that God has a tolerance for false belief systems however when you have a strong relationship with God, you will see that God actually feels very, very strongly about false belief systems. God is actually doing everything in His Power to ensure that false belief systems are ultimately destroyed. Any person who becomes at-one with God will have a deep desire to assist in the removal of these false belief systems from the planet. This is why Jesus in the first century had a very strong condemnation of the false belief systems of the day.

Usually, people on earth want us to be what they would classify as ‘tolerant’ of everything. But in reality we cannot be tolerant of belief systems that destroy the lives of people, not only on Earth, but also for a long time in the spirit world. When one tolerates, or desires that others tolerate, damaging belief systems they are actually supporting the continuation of these systems and contributing to suffering. One doesn’t need to be violent in their opposition but firmness and directness are required if false belief systems are going to be removed from the Earth.

The more Jesus and I progress, the more you will see us becoming firmer in our discussions about belief systems than we ever have been in the past. We will be zealous in our condemnation of any belief system that has a deep and long-lasting damaging effect on humanity. When you witness personally the amount of pain of suffering in the spirit world that results directly from these belief systems, we are very sure that you too will share our attitude.

Obviously, there is a lot more we could say on the subjects of religion and atheism but we’ll leave that to the continuing video presentations on the subject.

Mary

UPDATE  27 July 2018:

After responding to J, I reviewed the Religion & Atheism videos that he had mentioned in his letter to me. While it is true that Jesus and I do, at times, have the dynamic between us that I acknowledged in my response to J, the video in question was not a good example of this.

During the Religion and Atheism sessions I found that Jesus and I were fairly harmonious in our discussion and I certainly let Jesus have his say. We were very passionate and direct about the topic and I do think that, as I mentioned to J in my response, that this is potentially very triggering for those viewing those sessions.